"Fires are like other things in that when they happen, everybody is concerned, if they don’t, nobody remembers them." These are the words of David Kaimowitz. Luca Tacconi mirrored these exact same words in a separate interview. Both of them are from the same organization; the Centre for International Forest Research (CIFOR). David Kaimowitz is the director general of CIFOR, while Luca Tacconi is a researcher who has published a report on the forest fires in Indonesia. The uniformity of these words ought to be imitated by the Indonesian government.