REDD had two implications for indigenous people here: the scheme could exacerbate land conflicts or it could ease the burden in protecting forests. The REDD scheme could threaten indigenous people if it follows the same land concession system used now, because that system is the source of ongoing conflicts with both forest concessionaires and industrial forest estates. It could be a good opportunity because it puts the indigenous people and the scheme on the same page - to prevent deforestation and forest degradation. The director general of the Bogor-based Center for International Forestry Research, Frances Seymour, said the scheme should give indigenous people more say at the national and international levels.